Wooden Wisdom with Dean Howard: A Guide to Buying Classic Boats

Dean Howard: Professional boat builder

Dean Howard is a highly skilled and experienced boatbuilder who served as Operations Manager at Wherry Yacht Charter in Wroxham. Before his departure, I had the pleasure of interviewing him aboard Topsail’s then-owned yacht Claire, as we drifted up Fleet Dyke in a gentle breeze — the perfect setting for a conversation about wooden boats.

Starting casual I asked:

Q: Dean what is your dream boat to own?

He instantly answered:

“A Bristol Channel pilot cutter, either one of the original ones or a fibreglass alternative.

There are some modern wooden ones which look pretty good.

Luke Powell is one of the guys that does them.

They’re performance boats but they’re a crossover between work boats, so they’re hardy and they were built for speed. A bit like the sea going version of a wherry, Gaff rigged but they’ve got foresails as well and they just look good.”

Dean is nothing if not true to his love of the wherrys.

Q: What do you think people should look out for when buying a wooden boat ?

“Rot”, he answers and chuckles….

“Viewing a wooden boat, you can use your nose.  They smell rotten, identifying this will help you to make sure that you’re not buying a bad one.”

What does that smell like?

“A bit of a woodland smell.”

What if it wasn’t rotten, would you expect no smell?

“No… Boats smell!” He chuckles again…

“You can look at a boat and see that it’s well kept just to gauge whether the last owner cared about the boat. That helps because they probably kept on top of most of the maintenance. I wouldn’t recommend buying a freshly painted boat because that could be hiding all sorts beneath. A boat that hasn’t been painted this season, will usually tell you the truth. If you’ve got paint peeling or bubbling, then it’s usually the wood beneath it that’s giving way and that’s what has stopped the paint adhering to the wood.”

Dean goosewinging up the broads network

Q: Would you say that you have to haul out a boat every year?

“In the ideal world, probably yes, but no – it’s not essential.

With fibreglass it’s nice to give the hull a compound polish and antifoul but this is not necessary every year.

That being said, if it’s easy for you to do for instance if you have a trailer boat, then why not. They all go green and it can be quite easy to keep them clean.

With wooden boats, I’d say the answer is no. It is not essential to have them out every year.”

So I asked him whether that’s considered controversial as I know it goes against a lot of standard practice that we see from our boat owners.

He answers that “there are pros and cons. If you can leave the boat in the water, get it under cover but still let the air flow through it (I’m thinking in a boat house or similar here) then it should be OK in the water. You’d still want to lift them out fairly regularly to keep an eye on the planking but it wouldn’t have to be every year.”

Q: Would you say different construction techniques e.g. carvel/clinker affect the ownership of a standard person and how might that influence their annual maintenance expectations?

“Fibreglass – anyone who isn’t overly practical. For the most part a power washer will keep on top of them but every few years it would be nice to have them compound polished to get their shine back.

With wood, for instance cold moulded bead and cove strip built, can be a lot of work if they do need maintenance. The plank width can also be narrower than other methods and so you may need to manufacture several planks to replace a certain area of rot. They do however end up very strong – almost a monocoque construction. With traditional clinker and carvel methods,  you do need to know what you are doing, but you can pull a plank out and put a new one in.”

Q: Is it easier for an amateur to maintain either clinker or carvel?

“Probably easier on carvel for an amateur but about the same for a professional.

With clinker, where one planks meets another, you have to put a bevel in because you’ve got flat planks bending around a curved hull.”

“Bead and cove strip built is tricky to maintain by comparison to carvel and clinker because you have to remove probably at least 3 x planks (unless accessible from the transom) so that you can bend the new ones in.  Although interestingly enough if building from scratch, it’s easier for an amateur to build a strip-built boat.”

Q: Does the age of a wooden boat matter?

“No.

If it’s 100 year old boat that has been kept on top of then that’s fine.”

We then both laugh at the Only Fools and Horses ‘Trigger’s broom’ reference

Dean in his workshop

Q: How long does it take to replace a plank?

“Talking about clinker and carvel: I can whip a plank out and have the new one in in a day, but I like to treat the area e.g. with preservatives and put bedding compounds in, so I’d like to say 3 days for me to be happy with the job.”

When asked if 5 planks next to each other would therefore be 5 x 3 = 15 days? Dean replies that “if there are that many next to each other, then the job probably involves frame replacement or repair as well, so yes 15 days probably still seems like a good estimate. “

“There’s all of the aspects to consider as well e.g. The coats of paint that are likely required over the new plank(s) and product drying times.”

Q: Does keel or hog damage mean that the boat is essentially a write-off and should only be considered for a “project price”?

“This damage definitely needs to be reflected in the price. The boat shouldn’t really be at “market-value” but it does of course depend upon the specifics, so seek expert advice.”

Q: If you were buying a boat and the advert stated that many planks had been replaced over recent years, would you view this as a good thing or a worrying thing?

“You’d have to see the boat. It shows that the owner has cared for the boat and that they have done the work, but it could be signs of an ongoing problem. There’s not a right or wrong answer here, so again seek expert advice. The thing to do is to try and understand the issues behind the ongoing plank replacement. Dry rot, or stale-air areas (through design or poor maintenance routines) could be responsible for the ongoing issues so again, try to understand what’s been causing the  issue(s).”

This is the end of the Dean Howard interview as conducted by Danny Norcott.

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Launching a Trailer Sailer yacht on a wooden slipway – Published by DN Boating

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Topsail Team Claire in The 2023 Three Rivers Race

What an amazing day we had out on the river, seeing old faces, meeting new ones and SAILLLIIINNGGG!

Thanks to our crew members Dean (The Wherry Yacht Charter boat builder), Toby (Yachtmaster), Jamie (Competitive edge), Danny (Topsail Skipper)

Claire and the crew flying down the Bure.

Even if you’ve seen the results what you may not know is that we did successfully complete the course!!!!!!! Would you believe that we were 90 seconds over the time limit! A 24-hour race – 90 seconds! This unfortunately is simply recorded as out-of-time 🙁

The team sailed exceptionally well though and we had a great time.

To attribute a reason to us not doing better, it’s simply that we were overly optimistic on our route, with Claire having proven herself so capable. There was a safe route that utilised the tide properly and for us this would have been: Horning, South Walsham, Stokesby, Hickling and then Ludham on the way home. When we looked at the wind forecast and our huge handicap, we entertained the idea of working with the wind but against the tide. By going, Horning, Hickling, Stokesby, South Walsham, Ludham we would fight the tide down at Stokesby but be able to overcome it because of the strong forecast wind, then ride the tide back – an entire tide earlier than in the previous ‘safer’ option!

When our huge handicap was applied, we might then be in for a respectable result, not just a completion. To test this risky proposal, Toby, Jamie, Thomas (Dean stand-in) and I tested Horning to Hickling, down to Stokesby and then back to South Walsham, timing the practice to use the same tidal conditions with what we thought would be the same wind conditions and we absolutely smashed it (apart from a failed bridge shoot up-wind at Potter thanks primarily to tourist river traffic). This gave us the confidence to try.

So what happened? You might notice that I’m saying ‘Stokesby’ which is where we knew the marker to be from our 2021 attempt. This year the race committee moved it quite a bit further down to The Stracey Arms, which means more distance to travel against the tide. Additionally, the forecast changed and the wind was due to drop off around that time. Foolishly we didn’t update our plan, so unsurprisingly we got stuck against the tide down near The Stracey Arms. We therefore had to mud weight and sit for a few hours. The second the wind picked up, we were back against it. So much so that Dean and Jamie were trying a good hour before it became possible. Toby, our most experienced helmsman got a few hours in, he doesn’t do well without sleep. Initially I carried on with Dean and Jamie until it really really had to be mud-weight down. Very magnanimously, Dean suggested that I lay my head for a little while as he believed that Toby and I needed to be on our ‘A-game’.

What an event. What an effort. What a capable boat, overtaking people with much greater sail area on the way out and even a little nifty Rebel couldn’t out-pace us on the way home ( OK, these guys weren’t actually in the race), catching up with people that had left a lot earlier).

We loved it all. 90 seconds though. Only 90 seconds over the time limit. NINETY SECONDSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thank you for the support you gave us out on the River. It was excellent seeing and hearing you, especially at the Potter Heigham bridge – a stretch that we found insanely difficult. That being said, on both of our previous practice attempts, we had failed – so at least we succeeded there on race day!

See you out on the water soon…

P.S Please be assured that whilst we ate a hot meal around an actual table – I was holding a perfect goose-wing and there was very little that anybody else could actually do. These are just some of the joys of sailing a classic Broads river cruiser.